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Cardo vs Sena - Best Motorcycle Communication Systems of 2018

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In 2018, it’s easy to assume that all bluetooth motorcycle communication systems are abundant, astonishing, astounding and A1 on all accounts. But life isn’t that easy. Ryan runs through some of the beauties (and fails) from Cardo and Sena, eh. Gear breakdown: 0:27 - Cardo Packtalk Bold - https://frt9.co/7zmti6 1:32 - Sena 20S EVO Bluetooth Headset - https://frt9.co/s4gkn2 3:33 - Sena 30K Bluetooth Headset - https://frt9.co/bygnxz 5:45 - Cardo Packtalk Slim Headset - https://frt9.co/5ipw45 7:12 - Cardo Freecom 2 Headset - https://frt9.co/nnvk57 - Gear up for your next adventure at fortnine.ca: https://frt9.co/98au9e Connect with us: http://facebook.com/fortnine http://instagram.com/fortnine http://twitter.com/fortninecanada
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Michael Goodrich (1 hour ago)
Bought the 30k dual set from Sena.. It's an absolute pos! It won't audio multi task. I get either music, or intercom. Not both. I have constant issues with it losing pairing with other headsest. INCLUDING the other set bought with the pair. I've had the battery die in just 3 hours. Sometimes it lasts all day....no rhyme or reason. I live in Florida. It rains here. I got caught in a storm and the static and noise coming form the speakers got so bad, I had to pull over and rip the helmet off my head. After a couple of days the unit must have dried out as the noise went away. Customer service? WHAT customer service? I've gone back and forth with them MANY times and all they do is tell me to update the firmware and do a reset. They have been NO help at all. Wish I could get that $500 back!!!!
Jeff K (1 day ago)
https://www.byeaos.com this is by far the best helmet comm solution available right now.
Ian Baker (1 day ago)
Ohhh letterkenny is the best show in earth
medinajam85 (3 days ago)
These reviews are amazing man. Thanks so much for posting - again!
Craig Goldstein (4 days ago)
Long time Sena User here(SMH10 then 20S then 20S Evo then HD branded 20S Evo). I'll never own another Sena again. The SMH10 has crystal clear intercom but no layering and dont dare try pairing your phone and GPS while trying to maintain Intercom. The 20S(all of them) worked great if you were by yourself and just streaming from your phone and possible one intercom connection. Add additional members to the intercom then your greeted with the infamous Sena Popcorn/Drumming that at times kept the mic open so you cant hear music and drained battery. Troubleshot the Senas till blue in the face and tried multiple replacements but the Popcorn is here to stay. We've officially gave up on Sena and wont give them my money again. Five of us in my group just bought the Packtalk Bold JBL and now finally have the intercom experience Sena should have been all along. #NeverAgainSena
Norma Christie (4 days ago)
Love your vids.
Wheel Trouble (4 days ago)
I am fine with Lexin for the pricepoint.
TheRealMr.Whiskers (5 days ago)
Immediately love the letterkenny-esque reviews😂😂
Richard Ziccardi (5 days ago)
Love the letterkenny theme
Giuseppe L. (8 days ago)
Ma perchè quando postate le presentazionio non date la possibilità di scegliere la propria lingua, siccome non tutti clonoscono l'inglese
GIXXER SISTERS (8 days ago)
Lol we use chatterbox x1 and x2 better range and unlimited riders
Brian Scrivener (8 days ago)
The Cardo that we had would keep cutting out while we were talking. Do they still do that? The damn things would cut out at the most awful times.
Keith Hudson (10 days ago)
Best reference ever
Jarrett Lewis (10 days ago)
A character in a red shirt is fukn awesome
gmctech (10 days ago)
People..... save your money and stay away from Sena garbage. Here's how all my gang run now... Chinese M1-S head unit, Luiton Wireless Bluetooth Headset Walkie Talkie PTT, and Radioddity GD-77's. It sounds crazy but it's a neat little package that gives us wireless PTT capabilities with digital DMR radios that gives us realistic distances and enables us that are licensed to operate through HAM repeaters when we feel like it while still giving us the advantage of seamless bluetooth phone and music utilization... everything pairs up perfectly and we have mega hours of battery life and no wires to bother us. Look into it folks... I plan on making a short video to show folks what I mean and how it all ties together and just how much better all my no name chinese cheapo stuff does the job 10X better than Sena or Cardo can do... It took me a year to find everything you need to make this work but it was worth it!
Josiah Becker (8 days ago)
How do you connect the Tewp way radio to the headset?
geoffrey ethelston (11 days ago)
You shouldn't put anything at the base of your helmet as the cut away on the helmet is designed not to pinch your spine in a crash by adding the battery there is not what the helmet manufacturer designed
Ricky Harrison (11 days ago)
Love the Letterkenny reference
Han Htoo Bala (12 days ago)
God damn... what kind of Canadian red neck language is that
AZ_PIT_VIPER (12 days ago)
How do you like the BMW GS?
Spencer Howell (12 days ago)
Love the Letterkenny skit
Chrome (13 days ago)
Well done. Love the "American," lol.
alpine breed (13 days ago)
You were thinkin about comms the other daayyyy
Grom Jeromey (14 days ago)
Brah, the dude in red; LAMO!! For real. I had to watch it a second time. Good stuff.
Jason C (15 days ago)
I only wish this would have been published BEFORE I decided on the 30K. Now pack talk is partnered with jbl. ☹️
Peter Watson (15 days ago)
What a pisser!! So effing funny...well done!!
Eric Divine (15 days ago)
Delayed comment but no matter - way to go Ryan, you're gold. Thank you.
Jennie W (15 days ago)
Ryan Smith (15 days ago)
That Trump and Kim Jong Un joke didn't age well but can't blame you for not seeing that coming!
fugazi (16 days ago)
In EU we have got a INTERPHONE - URBAN / TOUR / SPORT - I'm using it for few years - very good choice
YoloLowLappeb (16 days ago)
Got a Schuberth S2 Sport and i concider a Schuberth SRC or a Sena 20S Evo. Can anyone recommend one of the two?
Motomatata (14 days ago)
i have 4 of the sena 20s love em
Robert van Boro (17 days ago)
Dope video Ryan. Great Letterkenny reference too.
Marwin (17 days ago)
Can you Test which one is the best in 2019 under 100 Bucks?
Ride Yo Ride (18 days ago)
People still use radar detectors? I use Waze for that, not 100% accurate, but better than nothing.
Anonymou5Gh0st (18 days ago)
Is that what a Canadian redneck sounds like ? 😂
Rocket Macchiato (18 days ago)
I LOVED this video. Very humorous and engaging man. Kept me interested all the way ASIDE from the review. Wish i saw this video before buying my Sena 30k 😭.
Tom Hanrath (21 days ago)
Crying laughing...and being well informed to boot. Still crying laughing...
Remy The Red (21 days ago)
As an american I can confirm this is the most Canadian thing ever... buddy.
Hashirama Senju (21 days ago)
if only you could just have cardo and sena intercompatibility
Hemberg (22 days ago)
Ehm, have you heard of "Interphone"? I still work with the 2015 Version, but I use it all the time and I can't say it has those flaws you mentioned in Cardo or Sena. It's expensive, but it seems to have more quality.
Rotor (22 days ago)
The Reality of it is Blue Tooth coms are shit. I've had 6 years of Cardo with 3 different models. Once the none replaceable battery gets a little old 2 years max your lucky if your range is 150 meters and god forbid its cold its more like 50 Meters. if its below 0 c 25 meters best. If you use them for snowmobiling forget it. the mic will freeze and destroy itself every time. If your just interested in just coms stick to old school 2 way Radios, There's a reason why all forms of racing radios only use 2 way radios for there comms. Range, clarity and reliability, not to mention great battery life.
Raiden (23 days ago)
Anyone know the song in the intro and outro?
Robin Rai (23 days ago)
Joe Sheryak (24 days ago)
Love the intro XD best show ever
Korjal Gil (24 days ago)
1:18 made my google come out. 😂
Hrishikesh Patil (24 days ago)
Sena 10C Pro review please.
Caesar Wong (25 days ago)
In terms of innovation, price point and "the look" Cardo win all the way. But I'm still clueless why would big helmet manufacturers like Shoei and Schuberth prefer to go to bed with Sena instead. I was in the market looking for a modular helmet last year, but both C4 and Neotec 2 are tied up to use Sena's comm from factory. Damn!
Phil David (25 days ago)
Great nod to Letterkenny.
WRG (26 days ago)
Finally, some much needed clarity as this excellent review cuts through all the marketing BS.
Drake Haudenschield (26 days ago)
Letter F9....
Andri Marchian (26 days ago)
Anybody here know does Sena 3S can be pair with Packtalk Bold ? I know Sena 3S doesn't have universal pairing but Bold does. So does it work then ..?
vulcan1358 (27 days ago)
How bout ya now?
Stephen DeHart (1 month ago)
Why don't they all just use Citizens band? Instead of kilometer range you get five miles, and unlimited people able to be connected. For privacy, use side-band or change channels. A Cb can be as small as a cigarette pack. And, they don't cost hundreds.
Traffic Cone Plays (1 month ago)
Super cold video
Chappy Chap (1 month ago)
Late as hell comment but the letterkenny playoff is awesome man!
Mac's Motovlog (1 month ago)
I have a Sena 20s evo and love it. Easy to use with gloves and it can connect to 8 people. More than I will ever do. Plus everyone either has a Sena or a ebay special. Out of all the group rides i have been on i have never seen someone with a Cardo lol
Kevin G (1 month ago)
Difficult to understand at times ( British guy) but great review.. however comparing to the SHOEI plug-in module or the Schuberth system ......??
D. Harrison (1 month ago)
Thanks for this, i went with the slim and i LOVE IT.
dlos1987 (1 month ago)
Comical and Educational
SavedByFaithInJesus (1 month ago)
What's the device on your shoulder @ 1:30?
jayy nah (1 month ago)
I love watching these style of videos. Always a hoot haha.
Ans L (1 month ago)
I got the sena 10r and the range is absolute shit. It's best to just call your buddy through the sena so you have unlimited range.
Tsvetan Tsekov (1 month ago)
Hmm....I wanted to get the Packtalk Slim, then I looked at the price, realized I ride solo or 2-up most of the time but almost never with other bikes....Freecom 1+ looks great at 200 Euro less...but then again, no voice control, no JBL....shit...why do I always need to buy the (2nd) most expensive stuff? Do I really need the JBL? I love quality sound but how do they compare to the regular or "HD" 40mm on cheaper models? How do they compare to average in-ear headphones? How much shorter is the actual range (in the real world) of the Slim compared to the Bold? Never had a communicator device before.
TysonLeB (1 month ago)
you're fuckin awesome, keep up the good work
Tek Brownworthy (1 month ago)
What's the audio quality like on the Cardo?
srs13 (1 month ago)
It’s like he really wants to be like the guys on letterkenny 😂
srs13 (1 month ago)
Todd Bradley (1 month ago)
Truth is, since I started biking again last year, this is the first place I come for any type of gear review. Ryan, you will soon have your own multimillion dollar gig padawan..
QuinnUltra (1 month ago)
Well, a few things. He didn't mention that the 20S Evo also has voice commands that work pretty well, and Hey Google and Hey Siri work as well. The Call Quality. So you can make and receive phone calls with both, however the quality of the calls were better on the 20S Evo. Then there's the big one. That fancy MESH thingy, yeah it only works with other Pack Talks. I went on ride back in the Summer with 40 other bikes, can you guess how many had PackTalks? Well you're wrong. Zero. Everyone had Senas. Then the deciding factor for me was this: With the Sena 20S I could talk to my father who was riding with me, WHILE listening to my favorite music through BlueTooth, and to top it off the Battery in the Sena 20S lasted for 6 hrs of talking and listening to music. The PackTalk is fantastic...IF everyone is using a PackTalk. And as far as I could tell, the PackTalk, while in MESH, doesnt let you listen to music and talk to other riders at the same time. I bought the Sena 20S Evo and its the best thing Ive ever done.
Kaiser Knapp (1 month ago)
I bought my com on wish.com for 30 bucks
dunk k (1 month ago)
Does anybody know if I can use the Cardo Packtalk Slim with an Arai Qv Pro? The helmet is not listed on their wesite, but Cardo claims that does not mean it wont fit.
EddieLivesOnLincoln (1 month ago)
So I was told by someone to get a freecom 4 instead of a packtalk but it's much more user friendly... Will be riding either 2-up or with a single buddy on another bike. Your take? Price isn't a factor in this case.
SchulteShiftFZ (1 month ago)
sphinxsway (1 month ago)
Best video on youtube
Maverickbaritone (1 month ago)
Ok you did Letterkenny, next is Trailerpark Boys right?! Love the themed videos! Most entertaining Motorcycle channel by far!
Samuel Fink (1 month ago)
I love the letterkenny in this video
eagleeyedpsycho (1 month ago)
can you connect sena with packtalk?
Pat W (1 month ago)
That was awesome.
Mark Mark (1 month ago)
How I got into Fort Nine, love you buddy, you’re my favourite motorcycle review guy, friend
Ahmad Bilal (1 month ago)
05:18 ... plz do all reviews like this, Ryan. haha. I laughed so hard.
Clint Terrill (1 month ago)
Lol! Great video.
Antony Borlase (2 months ago)
Why are there no systems that can connect to the helmets easily, and run on selectable standard RF channels (I.e. one of the 80 standard wireless RT channels). Hand-held RT’s are now small, 0.5w transmitter, digital, and no pairing issues.
Erick Murphy (2 months ago)
Love all your reviews.. really feel like I can properly trust his unbiased statements.. 👍👍👍.
HaulinAssAssin (2 months ago)
Ryan this has to be my favorite video you’ve made to date. 😂👍👍
RoseCityRider (2 months ago)
Jesus. Annoying ass “character”. Just review the damn product.
Peter Crowder (2 months ago)
Hey Ryan great review and comparison. I was wondering if you had any advice on hearing protection phones that would pair nicely with these sort of gear. Ideally a -25-30dB pair of head phones that would replace the speakers. Or I guess I could wear normal hearing protection (passive or active) and then use these but fitting active phones under your helmet and turning up the volume on your speakers to get through hearing protection never seems like a good idea. Thanks!
Glenn Massengill (2 months ago)
LetterKenny 🤘🏻🤣
rballenger7 (2 months ago)
Who wins on sound quality the slim or the 30k?
michael sorokin (2 months ago)
Hey Ryan! I’m a subscriber and fan! I have the Cardo Packtalk bold and I love it! I believe it came with 40mm speakers but not the JBL version that comes with 2019 Packtalk bolds. My question for you is this: do you think the 40mm UCLEAR speakers would be a noticeable upgrade or no? Thank you!
J. C. (2 months ago)
Terrific review. Much appreciated.
Kapil Rana (2 months ago)
please review the new Uclear Motion 6 or Infinity as there are no reviews for these on YouTube
Mike Clouse (2 months ago)
I don't understand why we don"t use VOIP apps like Discord so all you need is an open com.
Copy Splash (2 months ago)
If you don't ride through a episode of Letterkenny and roost the shit outta them I'll be pissed.... Be decent for sure
Hawaii on2Wheels (2 months ago)
Ryan F9 may be the only good thing about Canada....that and canned rum and coke
Kike Ba (2 months ago)
Que feo el pavo
YourBimmerTech (2 months ago)
That’s a Texas size 10-4
max leybourne (2 months ago)
Nowhere on your or any other review or the literature on Cardo advertising does it say “ you must speak with an American type accent for product to work” Yep I’m a kiwi and have a kiwi accent. This product wasn’t working and when I contacted cardo about it being faulty that is the response I was given. I told them to get fucked and returned for a refund. Maybe add that to ya next review!!
Joël van Dingstee (2 months ago)
Gawd darnit, i just shot my coffee out of my nose. This stuff is hilarious.
Phil Richardson (2 months ago)
Bought the Cardo packtalk duo just over 12 months ago, sadly the charging point has failed, so not overly impressed with the build quality
christian jensen (2 months ago)
Great reveiw!!! and damn funny aswell
First, I generally have liked your reviews, but you are turning yourself into an entertainment personality at the cost of clarity and focus. I was finding it too hard to weed through your antics and voice gimmicks to hear what I needed to hear. As far as the devices, I bought the Cardo Bold but have not been on the road much yet to test it. I do have stronger sentiments for -- or actually against -- the Sena. I am pretty careful weaving the speaker wires through the helmet padding, but I've had three Sena speaker wire tear out from their flimsy weld on the speakers -- and Sena Customer Service was indifferent about helping with it or even considering looking at their wire attachment method. As well. one control unit drowned to death (that's redundant, I know) in one of my many rain-soaked rides. Not sure if Cardo wins yet, but Sena loses.

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