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Ghost Whisperer vs REI Co-Op Down Jacket

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Ghost Whisperer vs REI Co-Op Down Jacket- In this video I am comparing the REI Co-Op down jacket to the Mountain Hardware Ghost Whisperer. I am listing the pros and the cons of each jacket so that you have make an informed decision when purchasing your down jacket. Ghost Whisperer 800 fill w/ hood: http://amzn.to/2Dy1sDj Ghost Whisperer 800 fill w/out hood: http://amzn.to/2mB0mi6 REI Co-Op 650 fill: https://www.rei.com/product/878094/rei-co-op-down-jacket-womens REI Co-Op 850 fill: https://www.rei.com/product/109451/rei-co-op-magma-850-down-jacket-womens *HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT HIKE OREGON: Patreon https://www.patreon.com/HikeOregon (you can pledge as low as $1 a month and help Hike Oregon to continue producing content) Filmed with a Sony HDR-CX405 http://amzn.to/2xvXyXf For more fun Oregon hiking stuff, check out my website: http://www.hikeoregon.net SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hike-Oregon/499216170214509 Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hike.oregon Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/Hike_Oregon Pinterest: http://www.pinterest.com/hikeor Google+: http://www.plus.google.com/+HikeoregonNetOR Email: [email protected]
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Todd Emery (16 hours ago)
I just picked up an REI Magma 850 hooded jacket today for $109 during their current sale. Seems unbeatable. Totally comfortable and warm. I’ll throw my OR Helium II (got an unpopular color of that jacket on Amazon for $60 off the normal price!) over it and those two pieces combined will handle any weather I’ll get into this winter. Thanks for your review! It helped me make my decision.
Hike Oregon (15 hours ago)
Nice what a deal 👍🏼👍🏼
Ari Kolbeinsson (2 days ago)
Very interesting. I got the men's version, and I have wide shoulders and a bit of extra bulk around the shoulder area, and can at least report that the men's version does not seem to have that shoulder tightness issue. Hope that is helpful to someone.
Samantha L. Scherba (28 days ago)
Not the topic of the video, but what brand is the tank you're wearing? I've been looking for some basics and like the cut of yours a lot! Thanks in advance!!
Hike Oregon (28 days ago)
Mossimo Tanks from Target 👍🏼👍🏼
sdemosi (1 month ago)
I've a ghost whisperer and so does my wife. We're both Ls and have none of the fit problems that you have. The shoulders aren't tight and the arms are fine. A bit longer than average but I have long arms so it's great for me. We didn't pay retail for any of the 3 ghost whisperer that we own. The ghost whisperer is an ultra light jacket with a patented super light but still ripstop fabric. It's impossible to do that without compromise. You're missing the point about it when you talk about quality issues. It's a technical mountaineering jacket which is low profile to be worn as a highly packable mid layer under a hard shell or as an outer when it's dry. It's not meant to compete with the REI jacket. The see through fabric is technically amazing and its thinness has nothing to do with quality. MH do a nitrous jacket which is for more casual wear. This is the one most people should buy. The reason people are buying the ghost whisperer is that it looks cool and because its expensive (cachet) but in order to make it so light, they had to trade off durability. It can never be as durable as the stretch down, nitrous or the beefier expedition / guide models. Save yourself some cash and get an MH nitrous which is much closer to what you want, is more durable and also very light. I almost wish people would stop buying the GW expecting it to be an all purpose casual down. It was never meant to be that.
sdemosi (1 month ago)
+Hike Oregon my brother is between sizes for Mountain Hardwear and Marmot fits him better. There's a lot to recommend about Marmot products and they tend not to have the compromises of some of the pure mountaineering brands. He swears by the Marmot Terrawatt jacket for weather arounda zero degrees C but warmer than - 10. It's equivalent to my mountain hardwear phantom, very comfortable and cheaper.
Hike Oregon (1 month ago)
I actually ended up returning both of these jackets and getting a synthetic jacket from Marmot. It’s amazing and I love it SO much!!!
Sarah C (3 months ago)
I agree with some of the comments that the Mountain Hardwear GW looks like a spacesuit but I actually quite like it. Thanks for the fantastic review and for demonstrating the hood with the jacket fully zipped up. I like to snuggle into my jackets like that and like to know what it will look like before a purchase. Defintely one to add to my collection. Thanks again.
Hike Oregon (3 months ago)
Thanks so much for watching Sarah!! I’m so glad to hear it was helpful.
liisac111 (3 months ago)
Great video, thanks! I am trying to decide on a down jacket and these are my two top contenders, so a review directly comparing them is awesome! Just some extra information for everybody right now (as of July 30, 2018) - REI just came out with the Magma 850 in a hooded version! It costs $220 on their website, and the non-hooded version is discounted to $132. It looks as though they will be discontinuing the non-hooded version, so if you want one sans hood, get it now! Also, the Ghost Whisperer is available on Amazon at the moment for $195. So - given that the Ghost Whisperer is now less expensive than the comparable (hooded) REI version, does that change your metric at all?
Hike Oregon (3 months ago)
I actually got my Ghost for $125 but the price doesn’t change the fact that it still didn’t fit me right and that the material is super flimsy and thin. I would wait for an REI sale and get the hooded Magma. I wore the Magma for an entire fall and winter season before exchanging it for a synthetic hooded jacket. I am much warmer now.
JK XTC (3 months ago)
For the price of the ghost jacket....you can get a hat and nice gloves...better with the REI ...
astrog8tr (3 months ago)
I got the REI Magma for something like $140. It also fits me very nicely. I have no "man boobs". :D . I was looking for a hood, but oh well. Got a balaclava and that's my hood.
FreedomSlaves (6 months ago)
If REI had the hood (in my opinion) it'd be better! But looks like the ghost doesn't have a comfortable enough fit for you!
Hike Oregon (5 months ago)
I actually recently returned this jacket. I wore the REI jacket all winter and was always cold. Plus it leaked feathers like crazy! I am taking the hit on weight and opted for a synthetic fill jacket with hood :).
Folma7 (7 months ago)
Great review. I have the REI brand as well. It’s amazing how warm it is
Michael Fidler (8 months ago)
Nice review.
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
Thanks for watching Michael!
Grizz in the Woods (8 months ago)
I think a lot of lightweight expensive gear is really being pushed by the ultralight community. I myself had been influenced to buy the expensive gear when I planned to thru hike the PCT. I was like wow it must be good, look at all the videos for it. I have learned over my 12 years of backpacking that it really comes down to what works best for you. Expensive isn't always better. That being said I got the ghost whisperer for $100 thru a special sale and love it.
TomKay (8 months ago)
Great review 👍
TomKay (8 months ago)
awesome. How do they do in rain? thanks
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
Yes, ti's amazing! I used the 650 fill on my last PCT section hike and I use the 800 fill all the time on day hikes here now that it's winter.
TomKay (8 months ago)
Hike Oregon have you used the rei jacket yet outside on a trek? Thanks
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
Thanks for watching Tom!
yakitoriPB (8 months ago)
Don't ever say 350 for a ghost whisperer. They can be had (especially in outlier sizes) for 130-180 if you look for a bargain.
yakitoriPB (8 months ago)
U try an xs?
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
The size I had was a Small.
1chshock (8 months ago)
Great comparison. For me I've got 2 Patagonia 800 fill down sweater jackets. 1 for the backcountry and 1 for the city. They fit me perfectly and you can always find them for a good deal at the REI garage, or other sales they have. I've gotten 1 for as cheap as $160-170.  Also the Traceable Down (third-party-verified, non-live-plucked, non-force-fed) was very important to me and worth the extra money over the REI brand. Happy trails:)
Rosa Cummings (8 months ago)
I'm glad you did this review. 99% of the reviews on this jacket are men. I found an Arc'tyrex Atom LT on sale at an REI garage sale (otherwise, I could never afford something like that), fits perfect and I'm an east coaster, so I was more interested in a synthetic, but I seriously considered the Ghost Whisperer.
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
Thanks so much for watching, Rosa! You're right, I searched high and low for a review on this jacket from a woman! Couldn't find one.
Carmen Hays Brown (8 months ago)
Saying you'll never sleep in your coat is frankly just wrong lol...Honestly, I like you and love your channel , but have you been out and had a cold front type night happen yet, ( like 10*C lower than your sleeping bag! And dropping!!) ??? When thru hiking you never know! I bought my down jacket a hair loose JUST so I can layer it on over my sleeping clothes and sleep in it if I need to! And I have! As a northern Canadian you get real cold and layer the GW under your rain layer or thermal rain layer, Also The longer sleeves have kept my hands warm as I hiked without gloves at times...also..you can always just roll or cuff it up anyways. I think if you shop, Like I did, the GW was 180$Cdn on sale from 340$, it's a great jacket for layers, not necessarily on its own. A good long sleeve wool layer under it and a weather shell or rain layer over it and it's seriously toasty! I also have the REI down jacket( 3 yr old model, bought online ) it's my car camping/emergency weather coat :) it's soft and fluffy and fits well too! And lives in my car for those crazy weather changes I get up here! But I'll take my hooded down layer GW with me on a thru hike anytime. I did a section of " THE GREAT TRAIL" from Edmonton Alberta up to Dawson in the Yukon two years ago with the GW...It saved me many times! But as they say, Hike your own Hike, I just wanted to stand up for my GW as it's saved my ass multiple times :) Ruby on the Trail
Hike Oregon (8 months ago)
I have not been in conditions like that. I was talking about on my next backpacking trip I don’t plan on sleeping in my jacket. I have a 5 degree sleeping bag and I’m hiking in July and August in Oregon. No need to sleep in my puffy. I don’t think I’m brave enough or have the equipment to backpack in the conditions you were talking about.
Adam Ashor (9 months ago)
Gata have that hood.
SSTrueLoveMarinus (9 months ago)
Thank you sooooo much for this review. I was about to bite the bullet and order the Ghost Whisperer but I heard MANY complaints about the tightness at the shoulder area. So disappointing for a $350 jacket. Nobody's body is formed that way. Tiny, long stick arms and huge torso/bust. So cartoonish.
SSTrueLoveMarinus (9 months ago)
Hike Oregon I really think the Ghost Whisperer is the most overrated jacket amongst hikers. For $350, that thing should fit you like a glove. I know there are all different body types, but I've never seen a woman with long stick arms with shoulders the size of their wrists and a big torso. This jacket was probably modeled on "Bender" from the cartoon Futurama. Mountain Hardwear put no thought into the fact that hikers layer their clothes. You are in a tank top and it's tight. What if you wanted to have a shirt and a hoodie. Shit out of luck I guess. Check out the reviews at Mountain Hardwear for this jacket. I read almost all of them and there were a few mentions on the shoulder tightness and now I saw your review. Thank you for this! I ended up buying a synthetic puffy jacket from Marmot for $200 at 13oz and it stuffs into its own pocket. Plenty of space at the shoulder area. I'm 5'1 and 110 lbs. It fits me like a glove. Went with synthetic because I am always cold and I'd like to be able to hike wearing the jacket and not worry about rain. If I'm ever in the market for a down puffy jacket, I'll probably go with a Marmot or Rei. Thanks!
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I'm glad you've heard multiple comments about the shoulders fitting tight. I hadn't heard anything about that and thought I was crazy or got a defect jacket. Because I don't have big shoulders at all. lol
Axerxes (9 months ago)
Hiker..... really good video. Terrific comparison!! Thanks again for your honesty and willingness to share with us. Best wishes... ax
Slippery Storm (9 months ago)
REI cheaper???? Wow. Did REI have a stroke ?
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
The REI co op is generally cheaper than the other brands sold there. It’s like buying the Kroger brand of cereal instead of frosted mini wheats.
Kevin Frenzel (9 months ago)
I got my 650 fill down REI jacket for $59 on their clearance last week! LOVE IT!
BrianNC81 (9 months ago)
I got my Patagonia down hooded sweater/jacket (800 fill) for about $100 last year on end of season clearance and unpopular color. Heavier weight than the GW but the fabric is more heavy duty and looks good for wearing it off the trail. (Who cares about a couple oz). I recommend it if you can get a good deal. (Full price is $280)
Karen W (9 months ago)
Excellent review. Thanks for pointing out all the details and clearly explaining why you liked or didn't like certain things. It really helps with the decision making process since there is a lot of money we are talking about here.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Thank you so much for watching, Karen!
El Emilio (9 months ago)
I'm going to stick with my bear fur coat. Good comparison!
Jim wisconsin (9 months ago)
i love mtn hardwear and was surprised with the problems you had with their jacket.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I was surprised too. But after reading all the comments I am glad I returned it. I think it’s such a cult item that no one wants to speak badly about it. Lol
Yvonne (9 months ago)
Great review! I’m looking to upgrade my jackets soon. For anyone looking online on the REI website, certain colors are on sale for $68.93 right now.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Yes that is a great deal!!!!!!!!!!
rockytop wrangler (9 months ago)
Wait,,damn I do!!!...getting older and out of shape ..
rockytop wrangler (9 months ago)
Good product video, I have been backpacking since the early '70's. and sometime in that time frame I discovered REI , and have found most of my backpacking/hiking needs with them. Skilled people that understand all hikes and hikers are different. And by the way,,,I don't have boobs either....lol..
jim williams (9 months ago)
great review. I have been using REI equipment for many years. top quality gear at good prices. REI also stands behind the products they sell. when are you starting your thru hike???Keep the great videos coming. You are doing a great job
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Aw thank you so much Jim!!! ❤️
jim williams (9 months ago)
I cant wait to see you hike the Oregon section. I really enjoy your videos. you have good insight on hiking and I like the gear videos also. I really like when you post a new video.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Thanks for watching Jim!! I’m not doing a full thru hike. Just doing the Oregon section, starting the first week of July.
Coffee Thnkr (9 months ago)
I have a couple of jackets from Patagonia and they fit Great. Then I ordered a shirt from them and I don't have big arms and my arms would not fit through the arm holes. I had to send it back.
WoodsTrekkin' Adventures (9 months ago)
Thanks for the review. I've been shooting down jackets and this helps. Peace!
jillian Vaughan (9 months ago)
What sleeping bags do you suggest? Looking for a warm, lightweight sleeping bag. I get cold easily. Would say average temp is 30-40 degrees when we are camping (mostly Arizona) Every once in a while down to 20s. Would love to sleep in just my sleeping bag and not have two jackets and two layers of pants to stay warm.
jillian Vaughan (9 months ago)
Hike Oregon thank you so much for the recommendations!!
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
If you're looking to go lightweight when backpacking I suggest the Zpacks sleeping bag. They come in different warmth ratings, I would probably get a 20 degree bag. If you're not too concerned about weight, I highly recommend the REI Magma 17 bag. Both the Zpacks and the REI bag are down bags.
Wilderness Field Journal (9 months ago)
Thanks for the good advice. I’ve been wanting to upgrade from my heavy hooded sweatshirt, and this information is very helpful.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I'm so glad this was helpful!
Nathan Rieck (9 months ago)
Like my ghost whisper but would never pay the full price for it, overpriced in my opinion. I waited until rei was selling last years models and a color that they were discontinuing. I paid like $120ish I think. I like it personally but the orange color is not for everyone :)
steve buch (9 months ago)
I always look at REI stuff before I choose a product, a lot of the time it is just as good.
Like others, have a MHW G W purchased at big discount. But having it on a six day pct hike w 2 days of rain, one day wet snow, I could tell the jacket was getting damp. So I bought an Enlightened Equip. Torrid APEX (synthetic) Jacket. Haven't tested the EE in damp weather yet. Good review, thxs!
Hike Oregon no worries.. I think it will work fine for me. Runs small sizing wise though.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Unfortunately the EE jacket hadn't come out yet when I bought these jackets.
Thanks for the review was thinking on getting one of these but I have big shoulders so I guess this would not be a good option for me!
whatmeyes2010 (9 months ago)
FYI REI co-op has a hooded version
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
If you're talking about the Stormhenge jacket, it is not comparable to the Ghost Whisperer at all because it is not the same style (it is actually a 2 layer jacket), nor is it lightweight.
Don Zones (9 months ago)
Great review! Especially for us on a tight budget.
Going Downwind (9 months ago)
The reason mountain hardware doesn’t have seams at the shoulders like the REI is to provide more down in that area to prevent cold air penetration at the seam but that said the REI is a way better deal and will keep you just as warm my older mountain hardware is a little heavier but way better material if I was to buy again it would be the REI
Jim Scott (9 months ago)
There are a number of better prices down jackets coming out now, even cosco makes one. I didn't have nearly the funds to buy the GW jacket, instead I went with the backcountry.com brand one (Basin & Range). Picked it up on sale on their clearance site for 60$ it didn't pack down quite as small as the GW but it does have a hood.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I actually ended up getting my Ghost for $129, so I didn't pay $350 for it. But retail it does cost $350 which is crazy!
Nature Calls Backpacking (9 months ago)
Great comparison. I agree with all your points. REI coop brand is a great value
David Mm (9 months ago)
Perhaps give us an idea of your height, waist measurement, arm length, and shoulder width measurement. It might give someone who's a similar size, or close to it, a better idea of how the jackets are sized.
Texas HIKEaholics (9 months ago)
Thanks for the comparison! I (Barbara) bought the Ghost Whisperer for $240 and have been planning on taking it back; however, I wasn't sure what to replace it with. My complaints are the loft has bunched up and caused areas with no loft and there are a lot of dark feathers which makes it look like the jacket has large black spots all over it. I have the orange jacket. And last but not least I have only used the jacket about 6 times and the stitching in the arms has come unraveled in 2 different places. I still stay warm when wearing it, but for the price I need more. I also agree completely with your analysis of the durability of the fabric. It feels very fragile. Thanks again!!
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Thank you for telling us about your experience with the Ghost! It is great for others to read this as well!!
Boodieman72 (9 months ago)
$350 for a jacket is way too much, IMHO
Jay Wanders Out (9 months ago)
I own a Ghost Whisperer and a REI Coop down jacket and I totally agree with all your points. Well, I do like longer sleeves so I can tuck my hands in. Anyway with the GW I try to be super gentle with it because it feels so fragile and costs a ton of money. With the REI I feel like I don't have to worry and can enjoy other things.
Adventures In Filmmaking (9 months ago)
REI is always a good bet. Though I'm not a hat person and more of a hoodie person. Usually I just pack a sweater with a hoodie that I wear under that jacket. I guess it all depends  on what time of year your hiking in as well. Do you always pack a hat for all of your trips?
Adventures In Filmmaking (9 months ago)
Right on
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Yes, if I am day hiking in the winter I pack a hat and a fleece headband. In the summer while I'm day hiking I don't carry a hat but I do carry a hat when I'm backpacking in the summer.
William Burton (9 months ago)
I agree, no need to pay for a brand name. I couldn't justify $300.00 for a jacket. I did end up buying the ghost whisper from Amazon, new, for $179.00 because it was not a popular color! Actually that's how I buy all my gear, unpopular colors! It saves at least $50.00 per item.:)
toonses thecat (21 days ago)
Love it. Always look in the "ugly bin" of discount gear.... the birds and squirrels don't mind my "fashion sense"
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Nice! I got that ugly green color for $129 because it was a color that was on sale and then I found a 40% off coupon code.
HikingTheGorge (9 months ago)
I recently picked up the REI Down Jacket 650 Fill and so far and loving it. I layer this with my REI Down vest if I need added warmth, but the jacket so far is awesome. I am going to pick up the REI Magma 850 down version, as so Far I like the REI Jacket. I originally had wanted to pickup the Ghost Whisperer as you stated, its the go to thru hiker jacket, but for the price, I'm not sure its worth it. REI does make a hooded 850 down jacket for men called the Stormhenge for $249 which is still cheaper than the Ghost Whisperer, but it comes in at 1lb 11oz for the weight vs 8oz for the Ghost Whisperer. Just my 2 cents
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Yea the Stormhenge is not comparable to the Ghost because it's actually a two-layer jacket and it's crazy heavy! That is definitely NOT a thru-hiker jacket!
Huy Cao (9 months ago)
Great review, Franziska! I truly believe there are a lot of jackets out there that work just as well as the Ghost Whisperer. It just got so popular because a few respected hikers said it works well and everybody else jump on board. We are fortunate that there are so many choices when it comes to gear, but it can also overwhelm the average consumer who does not want to buy a bunch of versions to find what works best for them. So they go by what everybody else is using.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
jtr109 (9 months ago)
I have the GW. I paid around $200. You are exactly right about the material being very thin and delicate. I also find it tough to zip up, requiring careful attention to keep from grabbing or tearing the fabric near the zipper. GW is very light, though. I recently saw a review of a new synthetic jacket from Enlightened Equipment that weighs slightly less than the GW and is under $200.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I would love to try that jacket!
Jay Wanders Out (9 months ago)
I have all three of these and I definitely like the Enlightened Equipment best of all three and I think not having all the baffles makes it consistently insulated so feels warmer. Because it's synthetic I feel like I don't have to worry as much either so it's totally win win. It is what I'll be taking with me in a couple of months.
Amanda Bess (9 months ago)
I love my ghost whisperer. I wouldn't pay full price for it tho. I got mine on sale for $100. I don't have any problem with the fit... but for you, the REI one looks like it fits you better. Is it big enough for layering tho?
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
Yes, it is definitely big enough for layering. If I'm hiking in really cold weather, I generally layer a tank top, a thick long sleeve, the down jacket and then a wind layer on top of the down jacket.
Amanda Bess (9 months ago)
Nevermind... Just watched your winter clothing video 😂 I dig it
A Jolly Hiker (9 months ago)
Looks like you're paying a premium for the Mountain Hardware brand for no real improvement in function or quality. REI looks like the best deal. Several years ago I purchased the L.L. Bean PrimaLoft Packaway Jacket. It is nice, but not down, and stores in its own zippered pocket (looks like a small hiking pillow). Temp rating is -15F to 35F weighing 12 oz in male large.
rrscooter21 (9 months ago)
I've been looking into the Ghost Whisperer. Maybe not anymore. Nice review. Thanks.
Hike Oregon (9 months ago)
I would still try both on if you can and see which one you like better. You can always find the Ghost in odd colors on sale on Amazon.
Rufus Earl (9 months ago)
That's alot of money for a spacesuit. REI is a better fit.
charlieoscar09 (9 months ago)
Thanks for the review ...The REI Co-Op Down Jacket pits you perfect the Ghost looks really baggy.

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